While the entertainment industry can tend to feel saturated with many people pursuing fame and glory, it can be rare to interact with the few people that were instinctively born to rise to the challenge of performance art; Siv Ngesi being an exceptional example of this in South Africa. I admit, I was nervous for this interview – for no reason other than I had seen Siv perform comedy at my high school over a decade ago, and as this being my only reference point; I was not sure what to expect – would this conversation be light-hearted, or enlightening? It is always interesting to engage with the person behind the character – particularly in this instance, with Siv exuding a depth of personality and confidence that I have not met, if ever, in another person.

“I am unapologetic about celebrating my achievements. I am one of the most underrated entertainers in the country – and people tend to call me controversial, but I find that quite unusual because I have only ever been me – completely so.”

“I think people don’t realise that comedy is an art – it really teaches you so much about engaging with people, and with the material one produces. Another thing with comedy is that the stakes are so high. You have to make people laugh. There is nothing that evokes quite as much pressure than when your performance depends on the reaction of the audience. Comedy is entirely dependent on the pace of the performer; while you are expressing one thought, another one has to be lined up already to land with the audience in a seamless way. It is a performance rooted in multi-tasking. It really brought me to engaging with politics, and South African history – it requires a lot of background knowledge, and unfortunately I feel that socially we are becoming incredibly sensitive; in which we have to remain correct in everything that is said even within the comedic format.”

Siv muses, with a sensibility that is decidedly self-assured and cognizant of misinterpretation; yet nothing in our entire conversation ever implies that Siv is anything but thoughtful and considered in his perspectives; particularly around his commitment to engaging with comedy with a live audience, in which the challenge remains wholly suited to the energetic responses from the crowd. 

“It’s a little bit like being porn star – and then COVID comes and you can’t have sex so you end up watching other people having sex online. That’s how I feel about performing comedy on Zoom.”

In moving back to his earlier years, what was it that allowed Siv to take up the acting mantle at such a young age?

“Well, I was fortunate enough to grow up with something that many people did not have – and that was an incredible mother. My mother believed in me, and as I was the last born yet the first boy, I was always continually told I was special. All my life. I was super energetic as a kid, and my mom was told to put me on Ritalin – but she refused, and put me in drama and sports instead – and that changed my life. There is no plan B for me, the only plan is to enforce plan A, and that’s all I have ever done and will ever do.”

 The determination Siv conveys is unmatched, and coupled with the full embodiment of his confidence – he goes onto state,

“I am unapologetic about celebrating my achievements. I am one of the most underrated entertainers in the country – and people tend to call me controversial, but I find that quite unusual because I have only ever been me – completely so. I unapologetically believe I am one of the most talented people in the country. I have worked too hard and come to far to back down. The goal will always be to be remembered as one of the most talented performers to come out of the country. I am fascinated by improving, learning and being the best version of myself that can possibly exist. Will people recognize this? It’s none of my business actually, all I can do is continue to pursue this goal with the dedication that I do every-single-day. Doubt kills dreams, and I will not rest until I have achieved everything I have set out to, and to be remembered for that too. Having said that, what people think has nothing to do with me”. 

Recently, Siv embarked on character development that raised the standards in terms of range and ability; namely, his foray into drag as the beloved “Sivanna” – and as this artistic medium begins to settle in its rightful place as a normalized and breathtaking expression of identity, he offered some insight into this manifestation;

“Masculinity is like nuclear power; it can be harnessed for both extreme destruction, while it can also be incredibly necessary and useful for the balance of life. In the right hands, it can do great and positive things. The problem is toxic masculinity. Around last year in lockdown, I came to this point of reflection about being 34 years old and having been taught such negative things about masculinity my whole life that I need to unlearn. So I started doing drag, ballet and pole dancing – and particularly with pole, I have been competing internationally. The perception is that these mediums are easy; ascribed to femininity, which is seen as fragile. I want to live in a world where my future son can wear a dress, and no one can say shit about it – nor question his masculinity. I will consistently help to grow drag in this country; that is part of my mission. I want to live in a world where people don’t have to “come out” – that spectrum of sexuality is normalized and nuanced, and respected for being so.”

/// Siv Ngesi as Sivanna

“Could I have been a bigger celebrity in this country, if I had kept my mouth shut? Could I have made more money? Yes, absolutely. Would I be truthful to myself? No! What matters the most? How I feel about myself. I am content with myself, and that is enough.”

This conversation with Siv Ngesi brought enlightenment and wisdom in a way that surprised me; it felt futile to even ask him, so where to next? Because ultimately; Siv will get there. He will work more internationally; he will broaden his career and remain undefeated – but most of all? Siv will remain truthfully, unequivocally, himself through it all…and how many stars could ever say the same?

Written by: Holly Bell Beaton