As a queer artist, how do you navigate identity, representation, and societal norms within your work, particularly in the context of traditional Nguni spirituality?
Desire Marea: “For me, a lot of it is about language. When I say language, I don’t necessarily mean the spoken word. It’s about the language I use to perceive myself. I think that’s foundational because it’s incredibly powerful. English is a beautiful language with a lot of words to make sense of different experiences, and it has helped us understand our lives in many ways. However, I need to think in my own language. That influences how I express myself, even if it’s not always apparent. It’s about answering the question “Who am I?” ngesiZulu and what that means, and it affects everything, including all my choices.”
One of those linguistic expressions we find in offerings such as “On The Romance of Being”, where you operate as someone operating across avant-garde, spiritual, and pop realms; how do you navigate and blend these spheres in your creative process?
Desire Marea: Music is incredibly multi-dimensional. For our album, we aimed to explore diverse influences without relying heavily on samples. Collaborating with Sanele Ngubane and Thuthuka Sibisi as co-producers and Izimakade on the unsanded elements was crucial. Each song was crafted to unfold with distinct moments and varied sections, almost like different songs within a single track. We focused on delivering each phrase and movement with unwavering conviction. Linguistically, our goal was to infuse the record with conviction and duality. Some songs blend Zulu and English, chosen deliberately to match the message’s essence. Beyond lyrical language, we also carefully selected instruments to enhance each sonic moment, resulting in radical shifts and transitions throughout the album. Our aim was for every moment to resonate with the authenticity of a true voice.
How did the holistic experience of creating this album help you find its true voice and your own? How did this process impact your personal growth, especially considering it happened during a transitional period in your life?
Desire Marea: “What really helped me find my voice was what came before the recording of that album—my initiation. The album is titled “On the Romance of Being” because, in a sense, I had just facilitated my own rebirth. Everything felt new, and I perceived things differently during that time. When everything feels new, the little things become important. The stories we tell aren’t grand; they’re about everyday occurrences. It could be something as simple as a text message or a WhatsApp conversation, but romanticised so much, and we haven’t finished it because it’s so important. This is what spirituality has taught me—to embellish every moment and make it meaningful. People die, and people connect with each other. There are songs for everything, and it’s a culture of romanticising life—it’s the greatest thing ever. I believe this deeply resonates with our band’s heritage.”
Your work has been celebrated for its celebration of African art heritage and queer visibility. What role does your art play in fostering greater understanding and representation within South African society and beyond?
Desire Marea: “In my visual art, I’m exploring the idea of queer Zulu people and queer masculinity from a historical perspective. My current series delves into this theme, particularly focusing on the concept of “amabutho”, which represents warriors and a certain kind of masculinity. I’m interested in locating queer individuals within that historical tension and role. Throughout my series, I’m constantly contemplating the eroticism present in these identities. I’m striving to create a vernacular that invites viewers to envision a moment that could have existed rather than resizing or altering history. I aim to express softness and tenderness, bringing life to these often erased figures. People from 1601 and similar periods have been largely removed from our visual landscapes. For me, imagining these erased identities is powerful and important. This imaginative process allows us to connect with and feel the presence of these individuals. It’s crucial for us to reclaim and reimagine our representation. Through my work, I aim to continue this occupation of changing and enriching our visual history.”
I’ve also developed an appreciation for the display of male intimacy in your paintings. Why is it essential for you to direct a warrior tone into the subjects who display intimacy?
Desire Marea: “Beyond the homoerotic, war is profoundly intimate—a journey of days spent sleeping under the stars, traversing mountains, and standing in battle alongside beloved comrades. The bonds forged were deep, a commitment to risking one’s life for fellow warriors, their families, and future generations—an undeniable act of love, irrespective of physical relationships. It’s crucial to clarify that this doesn’t justify violence; instead, it illuminates the depth of these connections. Many African mythologies intertwine gods of war and sexuality, underscoring a complex relationship between these domains. This duality is compelling, hinting at something inherently erotic yet profound in its symbolism. It challenges conventional views of African masculinity, offering a nuanced perspective on ancient archetypes. Celebrating this archetype is pivotal—it subverts stereotypes, revealing a facet of masculinity often overlooked or misunderstood. It speaks to a time when such roles were both challenging and revered, enriching our understanding of cultural narratives.”
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